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Kyle Gibbes [ Elemental ]
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Elemental Q&A
« on: May 24, 2015, 01:27:47 AM »
I'm sure these questions have been asked before, but after thinking things over I can't for the life of me remember an answer to them...

1. Since glass comes from sand and sand is pretty much little rocks does glass fall under stone or earth elementals? Or is it one of those things that is too non-elemental so therefore cant be controlled by an elemental and their magic?

2. If an earth elemental achieves a partial immunity to their element during their training, does that mean that they would be unaffected by anything from their element to include things like Mandrake cries and the like?

3. The spell Madin Bestia allows an earth elemental to summon a pack of rabid animals to fight for them. Does this mean that animals categorically fall under Madin control, is it a case by case basis, or can they not be controlled?  Is it just this spell that allows them to be manipulated?

4. Are elementals immune to their element if it is magically created as well? Example being fiendfyre.

5. Can an elementals elemental form change over time? If a young Madin initially morphs into a shrub are they confined to that morph forever or will they grow as their power grows into a more substantial morph, oak tree or something bigger? Also referring back up to number 3, if animals fall under earth elementals could they morph into an animal? That would seem like it is more an animagus than elemental but who knows?

Sorry if these are ridiculous but I just get caught thinking up crazy ideas in my head and then get stuck there until I come up with answers. Thanks.

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Re: Elemental Q&A
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2015, 04:27:52 AM »
Not ridiculous at all, they're all good questions.   This is just my take, as an elemental driver and someone that has spent many hours talking about elemental lore with Julie.  I'm *not* laying down the law as an admin - others (admins or members in general) should feel free to contradict me and contribute to the discussion.

1) I think this one is easiest - as you point out glass is made from basically a lot of little stones, so would fall under Demin control. Indeed Spencer's wip Fiorella is based on this premise and she's a stone elemental.

2) I personally would say yes, especially in a mandrake's case since they are very much a plant and madin elementals can control plants. This is just my gut reaction though, I don't really have any argument to back this up. (Though now you've got me wondering if a stone elemental was petrified, whether they'd be able just to morph themselves back!)

3) Madin Bestia is an odd spell. I'm not entirely sure why an earth elemental is able to control animals. The general introduction to earth elementals in the guide says that Earth elementals are generally good with animals, but I read that to mean it is generally in the personalities to be good with animals rather than they have some kind of power over them.  As earth elementals already have the power to control plant life, I think it would be rather overpowered of them if they could control all animals too - that would basically give them powers over any and every living thing. 

4) Another gut reaction, but again I would say yes with caveats. I would suggest that an elemental would be able to control any spells that had an elemental nature of their affinity cast at them by a wand waver, but perhaps not actually immune to them? They wouldn't however be able to control those cast by fellow elementals otherwise elementals of the same affinity would never be able to do any harm to one another. I really don't know on this question - it's a very good point.

5) I say definitely yes to the first part - a fully trained elemental who is skilled at morphing can control what the form they morph into for any individual morph. I think this has been borne out in various threads by various drivers over time. Demeter's sheet lists a variety of forms she takes by habit in the appearance section and throughout her history has other forms she has taken mentioned. This was all approved by whomever sorted her.

Likewise, and tying in with my answer to 3) I would say that no - earth elementals cannot morph into animals. As you say, that would be the purview of an animagus. Also, the whole elemental slow aging thing is due to the fact that whilst they are morphed into their elemental state their bodies are in an elemental form and therefore not subject to the aging process. Animals clearly are subject to the aging process and so there's another thing that suggests.

Hope that all helps.  As I say - this is all my interpretation.

Kyle Gibbes [ Elemental ]
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Re: Elemental Q&A
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2015, 05:07:34 AM »
Awesome, I think that clears up some of the air of mysteries. I was not sure about any of that but many of those answers you gave were what I expected to hear. Again, almost entirely curiosity rather than having an impact on my characters in any way...lol

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Re: Elemental Q&A
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2015, 08:37:16 AM »
4. I'm fairly sure that when I was working on Lario's app there was a mention of something along the lines of fiendfyre *somewhere*. It might not have been in the guides because I searched everything from that to archived sheets. But I'm fairly sure Lario can control it if the need arises. As elemental magic is different to wand magic I imagine they could control it in a similar way to ordinary things - so an ice elemental would be able to stop an avalanche that had been magically created (I have no idea why any wizard would want to create one, just using it as an example!) but would end up pretty exhausted afterwards because of the effort involved.

I imagine that older and more experienced elementals - say over the age of 50 - would be more likely to be able to take control of a magical fire/earthquake/rockfall etc and channel it either to their own use or return it to something harmless. Though it would only be under exceptional circumstances, because of the non-involvement policy of the council…

So, pretty much what Ty said, really!

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