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Ezra Grunwald [ Inactive Character ]
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marriage and history question
« on: August 26, 2015, 07:07:58 PM »
If I want my character to married or have been in my history, do I need a third EFB for that family line? I was also wondering what was the best way to handle necromancy for my character, if I wanted him to learn it? as it needs a special request I think in two weeks after active roleplaying. If I should include anything in my history of it now?  Additionally, are all wizards sent to Azkaban regardless of nationality? are they likely in a form of solitary, due to dementors weakening them?  I was interested in my character spending some time in prison, but I was unsure of some things.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2015, 10:15:09 PM by Ezra Parous »

Dermod Larkin Morfessa [ Death Eater ]
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Re: marriage and history question
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2015, 03:51:09 AM »
Marriage doesn't need an EFB, no. Because the husband or wife wouldn't be *your* character, they'd be an NPC, so it would be perfectly acceptable to say the spouse was a pureblood if that's what you wanted. However, if your character had a child with that spouse, and someone else later created the child and played them, this other person would them need to create an EFB for the spouse's line.

Necromancy is on the Durmstrang curriculum, so it's absolutely fine for now to say your character learnt it at school and that it was a subject they enjoyed and got a good grade in it. Then later you can apply for them being an actual necromancer.

I'm pretty sure Azkaban is *the* wizarding prison, at least on Europe. When Karkaroff was on trial after the first wizarding war he was on trial to potentially be sent there, so certainly there's scope for folks from the Durmstrang area to be sent there. At that time, they seem to have all been kept in solitary rooms from the descriptions in the books, though since Voldemort's downfall there aren't dementors there any more things are rather different (at least here on MH) so it depends within a little when you want him to have been imprisoned.

Hope that helps a bit!

[carys]~ Carys

Ezra Grunwald [ Inactive Character ]
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Re: marriage and history question
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2015, 05:04:02 AM »
oh ok thanks.  I should be ok on the dementors being there because I was planning on it having been between the first and second wizarding wars or before the first.

Ezra Grunwald [ Inactive Character ]
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Re: marriage and history question
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2015, 05:19:10 PM »
An additional question, in the time room in the department of mysterious would it be reasonable to assume that the ministry has wizards specifically trained to monitor breaches in timeline are sent to fix them on occasion? I was interested in my character working in that section of the department of mysterious for motivations for the rest of history.  But I was not sure if that scenario was plausible. I was also wondering about what NEWTs and training were required for it.

Elias Deyer [ Inactive Character ]
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Re: marriage and history question
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2015, 05:30:08 PM »
Hello,

I'm not an admin or anything but what is your timeline for all this? Him being imprisoned to working at the ministry? Did he work in the ministry before being imprisoned or after?

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Ezra Grunwald [ Inactive Character ]
1994 Posts
Re: marriage and history question
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2015, 05:31:46 PM »

Hello,

I'm not an admin or anything but what is your timeline for all this? Him being imprisoned to working at the ministry? Did he work in the mysteries before being imprisoned or after?


He would be imprisoned afterwords, though it would amount to about 20 years of history. Working in the ministry for two decades and then imprisoned for several months afterword.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2015, 10:19:19 PM by Ezra Parous »

shiloh [ Guest ]
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Re: marriage and history question
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2015, 06:12:02 PM »

An additional question, in the time room in the department of mysterious would it be reasonable to assume that the ministry has wizards specifically trained to monitor breaches in timeline are sent to fix them on occasion? I was interested in my character working in that section of the department of mysterious for motivations for the rest of history.  But I was not sure if that scenario was plausible. I was also wondering about what NEWTs and training were required for it.


Hello,

Seeing as time-turners are strictly regulated by the ministry of magic, I think that it makes a lot of sense for there to be a division of witches and wizards responsible for monitoring the usage of time-related charms. As far as qualifications, I would imagine a very high level of skill in charms is necessary. I think by and large this sort of position would depend on a personal background check of the individual: they would need to be a law-abiding citizen, good grades in general, respectable and trustworthy. Things of that nature.

Therefore, if the character worked there before being imprisoned, as you've said, I think that's fine. I highly doubt they'd be allowed to do so after being in Azkaban, but it doesn't sound like that will be relevant here. :-)

Hope that helps!

[spen]~ Spenny[/spen]

Ezra Grunwald [ Inactive Character ]
1994 Posts
Re: marriage and history question
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2015, 06:23:57 PM »
thanks, in that case would a newt in nautic magic or melioration magic in the case of Durmstrang probably be best? I was planning on my character being a more or less decent person before time travel sort of drove him mad but functional. 

Dermod Larkin Morfessa [ Death Eater ]
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Re: marriage and history question
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2015, 06:33:45 PM »
As long as they had the Durm equivalents of charms and probably transfiguration I would say you could make the case for either. Melioration would be more obvious, but nautica would include magical means of navigation which could be useful in finding people who'd altered timelines.

Ezra Grunwald [ Inactive Character ]
1994 Posts
Re: marriage and history question
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2015, 06:42:34 PM »
As my character was ending up a death eater, if I wanted my character trained by Bellatrix Lestrange and involved in torturing the Longbottoms for example.  Is that allowed?

Dermod Larkin Morfessa [ Death Eater ]
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Re: marriage and history question
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2015, 02:37:35 AM »

As my character was ending up a death eater, if I wanted my character trained by Bellatrix Lestrange and involved in torturing the Longbottoms for example.  Is that allowed?


it would be a bit iffy, simply because you're getting into major canon territory. But a Death Eater doesn't necessarily need to have any contact with any of the named DEs in order to have a viable history. If you've got a spare hour or two (I'm not kidding; his history is something like 16,000 words) you can have a look through Dermod's history and see the kind of things he's done.

Ezra Grunwald [ Inactive Character ]
1994 Posts
Re: marriage and history question
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2015, 10:22:09 PM »
I had actually been reading through years just had not got around to finishing it yet.  But it gave me a few ideas, when I finally did.

I'm trying to decide if I really want my character in Azkaban or not.  Do you think my character knowing the inner workings of the ministry of magic unspeakable department be enough for him to bargain his way of not going to prison or  simply a lighter sentence?
« Last Edit: September 04, 2015, 01:01:24 AM by Ezra Parous »

Elias Deyer [ Inactive Character ]
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Re: marriage and history question
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2015, 01:30:46 AM »
The Ministry would just have Obliviated him, I'm guessing. After all, I don't think they want other people knowing what's going on in those departments. When you leave the Department of Mysteries, I'm sure they do something to prevent you from speaking about it, i.e. memory charm/potion, unbreakable vow, or something of the sort. I honestly don't think the Ministry would actually let you blackmail them, and would actually give a harsher punishment, knowing it WAS blackmail.

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Ezra Grunwald [ Inactive Character ]
1994 Posts
Re: marriage and history question
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2015, 01:47:42 AM »
I figured that mostly was the case, but I will decide how I want to go about it.  Though I ended up mostly puttting him in an alternate reality to begin with as to why he still remembered everything and changed back to this original timeline where he was never actually in the department. But I will think up an alternative route, if I decide not have him go to prision after all.

Dermod Larkin Morfessa [ Death Eater ]
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Re: marriage and history question
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2015, 02:37:36 AM »
What I don't understand are these different timelines you speak of. While Time Turners can work for a few hours, the HP wiki, using information from JKR via Pottermore states that a wizard or witch can't go back in time more than five hours at a time without the serious chance of harm to themself or those around them. While it certainly seems to be the case that, in the past, this could well have happened (Hermione stating wizards have travelled back in time, seen themselves and killed their future self) or indeed they may have been able to go back in time for longer periods, there are very strict regulations on such things in the MH universe. I'm afraid that here on MH we aren't likely to approve alternate timelines within a history, particularly if they contradict or interact with established canon history.

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