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Lwineah [ OOC Account ]
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Muggleborn struggles
« on: September 19, 2017, 12:51:19 PM »
Hey, guys!! I'm a bit unsure about how I should approach my Muggleborn boy's history as he was held off by a year since Muggleborns weren't permitted to Hogwarts before the Dark lord fell. During that time I wonder, if one was able to find out he's a wizard or if he just stayed in the dark for a year longer before recieving his letter? Or would he get his letter anyway? Did the DEs or Ministry tried to seek out these kids somehow, if they were supposed to enter their first year at that time? Were they in possible danger?

Thanks!

Sophie [ OOC Account ]
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Re: Muggleborn struggles
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2017, 06:35:35 PM »
I don't have all the answers, but he was basically in the same position as Eilis. This is what I have in her history, based on the timeline:

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At the beginning of August, a letter arrived for Éilís, ordering her to present herself to the Muggleborn Registration Commission.


So, she fled the country. Since there is a list at Hogwarts of all students who are born with magic, her name would have been on the list -- and same for your guy. I didn't have her receive a letter that year, since Dumbledore had died and I sort of assumed that Voldemort already had enough control at the school to prevent those letters going out -- but if others feel that isn't accurate with canon since the Ministry didn't fall until the beginning of August, I could change that in her history.

I also had her find out she was a witch before attending Hogwarts because she had a magical neighbor who looked out for her during that time.

Basically.......I don't know if he would have received a Hogwarts letter. I think it makes sense that he would have been contacted by the ministry about coming in, because they had the list of all magical people. I also think that means the ministry likely would have interviewed him. Since he didn't have a wand, maybe nothing would have come of it. All in all, I'm happy to change Eilis' story to match if other admins have different ideas about how this should have gone. I'm pretty sure she's currently the only muggleborn of that age at Hogwarts (right, @Olivia?).

Ariana Laurier [ British Ministry ]
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Re: Muggleborn struggles
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2017, 08:03:46 PM »
I don't have a great answer but there is a moment in DH where Harry's hearing about how attending is mandatory and that it's a mechanism for finding MB students and he imagines 11-year-olds poring over new books only to find out that they won't ever actually see Hogwarts. Now, Harry has no idea whether any 11-year-olds have actually gotten a letter or not so this isn't definitive, but maybe JKR included this because she believed it to be what happened??

The letter thing is remarkably inconsistent because you should probably get your letter in mid-July with all the materials and stuff, since it asks for a reply by July 31, and Harry started getting his on the 24th or so, but Pottermore says that McGonagall got her letter on her birthday, and she was born in October. October is way before Dumbledore died. So it's unclear when you actually get your letter and that might impact whether mb students were notified as usual.

My personal feeling is that the MB registration commission would probably have wanted to round up 11 year olds too. I don't see why they would go easy on 11 year olds and throw 12 year olds in jail, so I imagine them sending a ministry official as usual, and then like, interviewing them when they're supposed to go to Diagon Alley and get all their stuff and using that as an efficient trap. But it's obviously up to the admins since canon is unclear both on what happened to first years and when letters come. Maybe Harry's just came in mid-July because otherwise he wouldn't have time to reply before his birthday.
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Olivia [ Hogwarts Admin ]
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Re: Muggleborn struggles
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2017, 09:54:57 PM »
Agreed with Helena in that canon is veryyy murky on this hahah.

Yeah to my knowledge, Eilis is the only Muggleborn we have played that should have matriculated that year - I remember we posted an announcement advising new drivers against making a Muggleborn character for that term because things were so topsy-turvy, and I don't think anyone has since created a Muggleborn that should have matriculated during DH.

My original thoughts on this (I think, at least) was that Muggleborns that would have matriculated that year wouldn't have gotten a Hogwarts letter in the thought that the Ministry might just let them live as Muggles and never tell them they were magical. But then they wouldn't have gotten a demand-for-Muggleborn-registration letter so idk what exactly I was thinking there.
But now that I'm thinking about it more, what if the "roster" of magical children doesn't give their blood status or any other information? If that's the case, they may have gotten a letter and then gotten grilled in Diagon Alley. Unless the Ministry literally researched these new Muggleborns and then selectively sent or didn't send letters... idk.

In summary - I have nothing useful to contribute haha. I think we need to decide on something in admin for a protocol going forward... I'll look back in the posts from when I Sorted Eilis to see if I brought it up at that time, pretty sure I did but can't remember if we ever came to a consensus.
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Amy [ OOC Account ]
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Re: Muggleborn struggles
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2017, 11:02:32 PM »
Total random suggestion, but maybe we could have some sort of mh!canon to make things a little more clear like an npc who was an ootp member/ally/sympathiser working in the commission who was identifying the ickle muggleborns and tipping off folks to help spirit them away for their protection? or falsifying papers, helping divert them to another magical school like bb, etc??

Lwineah [ OOC Account ]
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Re: Muggleborn struggles
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2017, 05:05:59 AM »
So basically
a) they didn't find out until the next year, if somehow Ministry forgot them but I kinda think that's unlikely they would let them be
so basically better possibility or more realistic could be
b) some ally that helped these kids like @Amy suggested
c) or they were thrown into Azkaban?

so far? :D

Sophie [ OOC Account ]
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Re: Muggleborn struggles
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2017, 08:59:38 AM »
I don't think azkaban is likely. Remember the "wandless" in the seventh book who were begging in Diagon Alley? I think an underage muggleborn without a wand (like your guy) would probably have just been told he was forbidden from attending school or obtaining a wand.

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